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The Committee notes the Government’s report, which describes the written communications made to the representative organizations on the matters covered by the Convention. With reference to the previous observation, the Government states that many practical and ad hoc meetings have been held on issues of an international nature, particularly before the Council of Ministers of the European Union and in the context of technical cooperation with Latin America. The Government indicates its readiness to look into the possibility of a schedule of periodic meetings with general objectives, which could be in addition to written communications, for all the representative organizations of employers and workers in relation to ILO matters. The Committee trusts that the Government will continue providing information in its reports on developments relating to the consultation procedures required by Article 2 as it relates to the issues addressed in Article 5.
The Committee notes the observations made by the General Union of Workers (UGT), in a communication addressed to the ILO in January 2000 and transmitted to the Government, on the failure of the latter to organize the meeting with the social partners, that it had requested, to study the establishment of more appropriate consultation procedures to give effect to the Convention. The UGT indicates that the comments it has been making for many years on application of the Convention remain unchanged. The Committee requests the Government to make any comment it deems appropriate in reply to these observations.
The Committee recalls that in its previous observation it noted that the Government undertook to consult the social partners in order to find an appropriate solution to the practical problems of application raised by the UGT and the Trade Union Federation of Workers’ Commissions (CC.OO.). The Committee expresses the hope that the Government’s next report would supply information on real progress achieved in establishing an effective consultation procedure, as required by Article 2 of the Convention, to the satisfaction of all parties concerned.
The Committee takes note of the Government's report and the information provided in reply to its previous observation. It notes that the consultation procedures, on which the General Union of Workers (UGT) and the Trade Union Federation of Workers Commissions (CC.OO.) commented, have remained unaltered since the previous government report. However, it observes that the Government has undertaken to consult the two representative organizations mentioned above so as to study alternative procedures to find an appropriate solution to the problems raised concerning application in practice. In view of the Government's positive attitude, the Committee trusts that its next report will bear witness to real progress in the elaboration of a consultation procedure within the meaning of Article 2 of the Convention to the satisfaction of all interested parties.
The Committee further notes with interest the detailed information submitted by the Government on consultations undertaken during the reporting period on each of the questions under Article 5, paragraph 1, of the Convention.
The Committee notes the comments formulated by the General Union of Workers (UGT) in its communication addressed to the ILO in January 1998, a copy of which was transmitted to the Government. The UGT emphasizes that the Government has made considerable effort to communicate the reports due under article 22 of the ILO Constitution to the representative organizations. However, the time-limits granted to organizations are too short to ensure effective consultations. The UGT, moreover, reiterates its previous comments concerning the lack of consultations on the re-examination of the unratified Conventions, as provided for under Article 5, paragraph 1(c), of the Convention. The Committee refers to its previous observation, in which it recalled that in the General Survey of 1982, it distinguished the simple exchange of information from consultation which constitutes a process assisting in decision-making (paragraph 42) and requests the Government to respond, where it deems appropriate, to the comments made by the UGT. The Committee also requests the Government to provide detailed responses in its next report to the questions raised in its previous observation which read as follows:
The Committee notes the comments received from the Trade Union Federation of Workers' Commissions (CC.OO.) in May 1995 and from the General Union of Workers (UGT) in July 1995. The Committee also notes the Government's report, received in August 1995, which refers to the comments made by the UGT and provides information in response to the Committee's previous observation.
1. The Committee notes that the General Union of Workers (UGT) reiterates its previous comments, alleging that the Government still does not hold effective consultations on ILO standards and activities. In particular, the UGT denounces the lack of consultations on the re-examination of unratified Conventions (Article 5, paragraph 1(c) of the Convention) and the difficulties encountered in holding effective consultations on the Government's reports due under article 22 of the ILO Constitution (Article 5, paragraph 1(d)). The workers' committees consider that the Economic and Social Council is not an appropriate body to supervise the application of the Convention and that the trade unions have not been consulted on the required procedures. The CC.OO. recalls in particular that Article 2 of the Convention lays down the obligation to ensure effective consultations which, under the terms of Article 5, paragraph 2, shall be undertaken at appropriate intervals fixed by mutual agreement.
2. The Committee notes the Government's statement in its report that it is ready to find any solution that resolves the practical problems of application raised. The Government emphasizes that it has established direct personal contacts in order to ensure that all written communications are received by the competent bodies of all the social and economic organizations. It also refers to a possible change in the system of consultation, provided that this is explicitly accepted by all the parties involved.
3. The Committee recalls that the Convention lays down that the nature and form of the consultation procedures shall be determined in accordance with national practice. Member States are obliged only to ensure that they are "effective", as required by Article 2, paragraph 1. With reference to its General Survey, the Committee points out once again that effective consultations are consultations which enable employers' and workers' organizations to have a useful say in matters relating to the activities of the ILO referred to in the Convention and the Recommendation. In the case under consideration, it observes that the above-mentioned workers' organizations do not consider written communications to be sufficient to give full effect to the provisions of the Convention. In these circumstances, and taking into account the positive attitude of the Government, the Committee considers it appropriate to suggest that the parties concerned would study the other possible methods proposed by Recommendation No. 152, though the list of such methods is not exhaustive. In addition, the Committee also recalls that Article 6 provides for the issue of an annual report on the working of the procedures "when this is considered appropriate after consultation with the representative organizations".
4. The Committee trusts that the Government will supply, in its next detailed report on the application of the Convention, information on the progress achieved with a view to operating appropriate procedures in order to ensure effective consultations to the satisfaction of all the parties concerned, taking into account the observations made, on the one hand, and the national practice, on the other hand.
The Committee requests the Government once again to take the measures necessary, as soon as possible, to bring its practice into full conformity with the essential provisions of the Convention.
The Committee notes the Government's report and the information which it contains in reply to its previous observation. The Government refers to the exchanges of information which have taken place during the period covered by the report. In addition, it indicates that no action has been taken as a result of the Committee's previous comments, since no alternative consultation procedure has been proposed by the representative organizations of employers and workers. In this regard, the Committee wishes to recall that in its 1982 General Survey it distinguished the simple exchange of information from consultation which constitutes a process assisting in decision-making (paragraph 42). Furthermore, the Committee notes that the Government's report contains insufficient information in response to its previous comments and trusts that in its next report it will provide complete replies to the questions raised in its previous observation which read as follows:
The Committee notes the information supplied by the Government in its report and the comments made by the General Union of Workers (UGT). The UGT states that the Government has never provided it with copies of its reports, but each year has sent only a copy of the questionnaires it receives from the ILO and asks the representative organizations for relevant comments, but gives them very little time to reply. The UGT acknowledges that this last matter can be remedied since the workers' organizations are able to send their observations directly to the ILO. However, it adds, the Government's failure to send the reports means that the unions do not know what steps the Government claims to be taking to ensure compliance with international standards, and are unable to make any comparison with their own positions. In a communication of 30 September 1994 the UGT asked the Government for the reports drawn up by the Ministry of Labour and Social Security. The Government asserts that it has treated the UGT in the same way as the other industrial organizations and lists the measures taken - giving their dates - which include the sending of reports. The Committee points out that one of the subjects to be dealt with in the consultations provided for in the Convention is matters arising out of reports to be made to the International Labour Office under article 22 of the ILO Constitution (Article 5, paragraph 1(d), of the Convention). It also points out that for such consultations to be effective it would be appropriate for employers' and workers' organizations to become acquainted with the content of the reports due under the ILO Constitution. The Committee notes that the reports requested must reach the International Labour Office within a prescribed time-limit. Consequently, the Committee is bound to ask the Government once again, under procedures "which ensure effective consultations" (Article 2), to take measures necessary to facilitate consultations between representatives of the Government, the employers and the workers on the items covered by the Convention (Article 5, paragraph 1), to the satisfaction of all the parties. Furthermore, the Committee would be grateful if the Government would indicate the nature of any reports and recommendations produced as a result of the consultations.
1. The Committee notes that the General Union of Workers (UGT) reiterates its previous comments, alleging that the Government still does not hold effective consultations on ILO standards and activities. In particular, the UGT denounces the lack of consultations on the re-examination of unratified Conventions (Article 5, paragraph 1(c) of the Convention) and the difficulties encountered in holding effective consultations on the Government reports due under article 22 of the ILO Constitution (Article 5, paragraph 1(d)). The workers' committees consider that the Economic and Social Council is not an appropriate body to supervise the application of the Convention and that the trade unions have not been consulted on the required procedures. The CC.OO. recalls in particular that Article 2 of the Convention lays down the obligation to ensure effective consultations which, under the terms of Article 5, paragraph 2, shall be undertaken at appropriate intervals fixed by mutual agreement.
3. The Committee recalls that the Convention lays down that the nature and form of the consultation procedures shall be determined in accordance with national practice. Member States are obliged only to ensure that they are "effective", as required by Article 2, paragraph 1. With reference to its General Survey, the Committee points out once again that effective consultations are consultations which enable employers' and workers' organizations to have a useful say in matters relating to the activities of the ILO referred to in the Convention and the Recommendation. In the case under consideration, it observes that the above-mentioned workers' organizations do not consider written communications to be sufficient to give full effect to the provisions of the Convention. In these circumstances, and taking into account the positive attitude of the Government, the Committee considers appropriate to suggest that the parties concerned would study the other possible methods proposed by Recommendation No. 152, though the list of such methods is not exhaustive. In addition, the Committee also recalls that Article 6 provides for the issue of an annual report on the working of the procedures "when this is considered appropriate after consultation with the representative organizations".
1. The Committee notes the information supplied by the Government in its report and the comments made by the General Union of Workers (UGT) which considers, among other things, that consultation procedures should not be limited to written communications. It notes Act No. 21 of 17 June 1991 establishing the Economic and Social Council which, according to the Government's previous report, would be able to examine the matter of selecting a different consultation procedure. It notes the Government's indication that the above Council only came into operation in October 1992. The Committee observes that the Act of 1991 does not establish the participation of government representatives in the Council which acts in an advisory capacity for the Government particularly when legislation is prepared to regulate labour matters. Furthermore, according to the Government, since the Council is an autonomous body, there is nothing to prevent it from dealing with matters concerning international labour relations.
2. The Committee also notes that other observations made by the UGT reiterate its previous comments on a number of points to which the Government has replied: the Committee notes the Government's reply concerning the financing of any necessary training of participants in the procedures (Article 4, paragraph 2, of the Convention), and consultations on questions arising out of reports to be made to the International Labour Office under article 22 of the ILO Constitution (Article 5, paragraph 1(d)).
The Committee also observes that, according to the UGT, despite the fact that it expressly requested them, no consultations were held to examine the ratification of certain Conventions, particularly the Social Security (Minimum Standards) Convention, 1952 (No. 102) (Article 5, paragraph 1(c)).
3. The Committee notes the Government's statement that it is open to any proposals from employers' and workers' representative organizations to make the consultations more effective (Article 2). It would be grateful if the Government would continue to provide information on any progress made in this respect, indicating in particular the extent to which the above-mentioned Economic and Social Council is consulted on matters concerning ILO standards and activities.
4. Lastly, the Committee asks the Government in its next report to provide the information required on consultations on each of the subjects listed in Article 5, paragraph 1, particularly points (c) (re-examination at appropriate intervals of unratified Conventions) and (d) (consultations on reports to be made under article 22 of the Constitution).
The Committee has taken note of the Government's report and of the information supplied in response to its previous observation. That observation mentioned the comments received from the General Union of Workers (UGT) concerning failure to apply Articles 2, 4 and 5 of the Convention.
The Committee points out that the trade union organisation alleged, in essence, the absence of consultation prior to the choice of procedures; the summary nature of consultations held at unduly short notice and with a frequency left to the Government's sole discretion; and the absence of arrangements made for the financing of the necessary training of participants in the consultation procedures.
The Government supplies detailed information in reply to each of the points previously raised. The procedure of consultation through written communication is not the outcome of a unilateral decision on the Government's part but is a continuation of an already established procedure even before the ratification of the Convention; such communications, used on all questions concerning the ILO, were regarded as "appropriate and sufficient" within the meaning of paragraph 2(3)(d) of Recommendation No. 152 and had not been contested hitherto. The Government describes the modus operandi of the procedure for consultation on the matters referred to in Article 5, paragraph 1, of the Convention and points out with regard to the frequency of consultations, which is the subject of paragraph 2, that the "appropriate intervals" are in practice determined by the cycle of ILO activities. As to training of participants in the procedures, for which provision is made in Article 4, paragraph 2, it appears from the Government's report that the Government does not consider it "necessary", because the persons concerned are heads of industrial organisations who regularly participate in ILO activities and in particular in the work of the Conference.
Lastly the Committee notes that one of the reasons for the choice of written communications was that there has hitherto been no coordinating body at the state level. In that connection it observes that the Government refers in its report to the forthcoming establishment of the Economic and Social Committee, which would be able to examine the question of choosing another mechanism of consultation to apply Convention No. 144 from among those suggested by Recommendation No. 152.
The Committee would be grateful if the Government would continue to supply information on all developments with regard to the way in which it ensures "effective" consultations within the meaning of Article 2 on each of the matters referred to in Article 5, paragraph 1, of the Convention.
With reference to its previous observation, the Committee notes the Government's report on the application of the Convention, particularly as regards the measures taken to give effect to Article 5, paragraph 1(d), of the Convention concerning consultations on the reports made under article 22 of the ILO Constitution. It also notes the comments made by the General Union of Workers (UGT). The UGT alleges, in the first place, that the procedure of holding consultations by means of written communications, which is currently being used, was decided upon unilaterally by the Government without prior consultation with the representative organisations of employers and workers, as required by Article 2, paragraph 2. The trade union organisation also states that no arrangement has been made, in accordance with Article 4, paragraph 2, between the competent authority and the representative organisations for the financing of any necessary training of participants in consultation procedures. Finally, the UGT considers that consultations on the points set out in Article 5, paragraph 1, are held in a summary manner and generally within too short a period, and that paragraph 2 of the same Article is not given effect in practice since the frequency of these consultations is left for the Government to fix alone.
The Committee would be grateful if the Government would supply the Office with information containing replies to these allegations.
[The Government is asked to report in detail for the period ending 30 June 1991.]
With reference to its previous comments, the Committee takes note of the Government's reply to the comments submitted by the Trade Union Confederation of Workers' Commissions concerning the application of the Convention. In a communication dated 7 February 1989, the above organisation alleged, inter alia, that the representative trade union organisations were not consulted on the content of the reports which were due in 1988, under article 22 of the Constitution, which is an infringement of Article 5 of the Convention.
In its reply, the Government expresses the opinion that Article 5, paragraph 1(d) does not imply that there must be prior consultations on the substance of the reports in question, and that the preparation of the reports is exclusively the responsibility of the Government. The Government concludes that the questions calling for consultations with the occupational organisations are questions raised once the reports have been drawn up. It adds that it is always ready to receive comments from the occupational organisations and that it never fails to transmit them without delay to the ILO.
In the first place, the Committee wishes to point out, as it does in its General Survey of 1982 (paragraph 124) on Convention No. 144 and Recommendation No. 152, that the provisions of Article 5, paragraph 1(d) go beyond the obligation for member States to communicate reports that is stipulated in article 23, paragraph 2, of the Constitution. Consultations are called for not on every report but only on those concerning Conventions whose application poses problems. In the case of reports on the application of ratified Conventions, due under article 22 of the Constitution, the consultations are often concerned essentially with the substance of the reply to comments by the supervisory bodies.
Lastly, and at a more general level, the Committee feels that it is useful to recall its position regarding the scope of the obligation to hold prior consultations provided for by the Convention. The principle generally accepted during the preliminary work on the Convention is that the outcome of the consultations should not be regarded as binding and that the ultimate decision rests with the Government. However, the consultations in the meaning of the Convention are none the less compulsory and should be held before the proposed measures are ultimately decided upon (see the above-mentioned General Survey, paragraphs 42 to 45).
The Committee trusts that the Government will take the above comments into consideration and that, in future, it will hold the required consultations on "questions arising out of reports" due under article 22 of the Constitution, in accordance with the letter and spirit of the provisions of the Convention.
Further to its previous comment, the Committee takes note of the information supplied by the Government in its last report, and in particular the information concerning the application of Article 5, paragraph 1, of the Convention.
The Committee also notes the information concerning the application of Article 6, to the effect that, until now, it has not been deemed appropriate to produce an annual report on the working of the procedures covered by the Convention. It requests the Government to state whether, in accordance with this provision, the employers' and workers' representative organisations have been consulted on this matter.
Finally, the Committee notes the comments submitted by the Trade Union Confederation of Workers' Committees alleging, among other points, that the Government has not consulted the representative trade union organisations on the questions which might arise from the reports to be presented to the ILO under article 22 of the Constitution, in accordance with Article 5, paragraph 1(d). These comments were received on 28 February and forwarded to the Government on 2 March 1989. The Committee requests the Government to indicate its opinion on this subject.